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Would You Rather Regulate The Sexual Marketplace Than Improve Yourself?

There is a strange dichotomy at the heart of the conversation around sex and relationships: men who would otherwise identify as conservatives are very keen to argue for communist-style regulation of the sexual marketplace in the form of enforced monogamy (i.e. marriage).

It is amusing to see men who would otherwise regard themselves free-market buccaneers who oppose big government and state intervention, to be so keen on them when it comes to protecting their pussy investments.

Sex at Dawn by Christopher Ryan and Cacilda Jetha reveals how, far from being the default, monogamy was pretty much unknown in pre-agricultural societies. Instead, polygamy was the norm, and children were raised communally.

By being able to fuck a selection of guys rather than just one, women were able to leverage ‘sperm wars’ to ensure the best genes for their offspring.

And the kids benefitted too—because of the natural doubt over parentage, several of the men would have a vested interest in looking after them. Rather than having just one father, they would have many. 

The problem with this scenario, of course (and one that is not really touched upon by Ryan and Jetha) is that not all men would have had equal access to sex. Quite the contrary, in fact. With women as the choosers (nothing unusual there) then naturally the most attractive and, yes, ‘alpha’ men would have been favoured.

Monogamous marriage came into vogue during the agricultural revolution (between 10,000 and 2000 BC). It was an initiative devised largely to remove complexity from the issue of parentage: after all, if you have land and property to pass on, then there is an incentive for you to be certain about who your children are.

Monogamy also had the useful additional benefit of sorting out the problem of sexual inequality—now, with a ‘one woman for one man’ system in place, even the most hopeless case guy was in with a decent shot of getting some sex and some attendant female attention.

The monogamy system lasted—imperfectly—for a few thousand years, until, in the 20th and 21st centuries, it started to break down.

Infidelity

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Well, it was inevitable. As I said, monogamy was always imperfect—you can read all about cheating wives in Juvenal, later Shakespeare, and then Flaubert—but the 20th century, and in particular the sexual revolution of the 1960s, which came about with the introduction of the contraceptive pill, broke the mould sufficiently for semi-open polygamy to come into vogue once again.

I say ‘semi-open’: what I mean by that is we are now in the strange situation where doublethink rules the day. Where on the one hand we see people on Instagram daily celebrating their flashy and expensive weddings. And where on the other hand we all know someone who has had an affair, or is having an affair, or has divorced their partner.

In other words, we accept theoretically the notion that infidelity and marriage breakdown happens a lot—but we only countenance the idea that it happens to ‘other people’, not to us and our friends.

(Until it does happen to us and our friends.)

But as I say, the fact that infidelity is such an open secret means that in practice what we are seeing is a covert ‘new polygamy’ in ascendence.

The Sexual Marketplace In Chaos

It need hardly be said that this has only been aided and abetted by emergent technology like dating sites, smartphones and dating apps such as Tinder, Bumble and so on. These days, the ease with which you can meet someone new is frankly astonishing, with even semi-attractive girls bombarded with messages and dick pics as soon as they open an account and upload a couple of pictures.

Broadly speaking, the sexual marketplace is in chaos and there are two ways of looking at this—as a terrible, immoral problem to be fought, or as an opportunity.

And this reflects precisely the split we see today in men’s discourse—the schism between tradcon, rightist voices, and players. Unfortunately, the former are fighting a losing battle, whereas the latter prefer to find a way to thrive, regardless of the circumstances.

Because here’s the truth. The trad guys are sitting their crying about hypergamy and all of that jazz, banging on about Christianity and family values and ‘healthy relationships™, and seeking to reeducate women about who they should fuck (i.e. trad guys). But it’s rather like the story of King Canute (of the North Sea Empire of England, Denmark and Sweden) sitting by the sea shore and commanding the tide not to wet his sandals or robes.

Inevitably, he was soon soaked.

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Furthermore, the trad’s preference is for regulation rather than for self-improvement. So instead of thinking ‘how do I become the kind of guy who gets girls, and cleans up in the sexual marketplace?‘ he thinks ‘How dare those chads go around swooping all the hotties? Let’s push the M&M narrative (marriage and monogamy) in an effort to turn back the clock to the 1950s and prevent them from doing so‘.

It need hardly be said that this is a futile course of action. But it is also one that abdicates personal responsibility, preferring to leverage social and legal pressure over interpersonal sex relations.

Here’s the truth—any man can get all of the sex he wants already. He can learn game. He can improve his value. He can approach more women (because almost every guy I know is not approaching enough). He can travel to a different country, where the sexual marketplace is more receptive to him.

There is always a way to win in the market, if you are resourceful.

Hell, you can even pay for sex as a last resort, if you want.

The trouble is, a lot of men are unwilling to take these steps, because of laziness, lack of balls, or a misplaced sense of entitlement: ‘No! Why should I have to do game like a dancing monkey?! I should get the sex I want with a hot, faithful girl . . .  just because!

It goes without saying that many of the exact same men who have this attitude would decry welfare payments to people out of work, just as they would oppose the government propping up failing businesses.

So why should state intervention in the form of marriage be allowed to prop up their failing sex lives?

Instead of complaining about ‘the decline of Western civilisation™’ men are far better advised to seize the opportunities that present themselves. Sex is, after all, far more available now than it ever has been at any other time.

Plus, as I’ve argued before, men don’t really want monogamy anyway—in fact, they would rather have sex with a variety of different attractive girls.

So rather then crying over what you regard as societal problems that you’re not going to change (which are really only indicators that monogamy was always broken), it’s far better to be honest about what you really want, work on yourself and take advantage of the huge opportunities that are present today instead.

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20 Comments

  1. Behold the alpha male Troy Francis, who has found virtue in his own cuckoldry and perfected the dark tetrad by accomodating women’s treachery! How he’s in full form today!

    1. Ridiculous.

      Troy.

  2. I would advocate for regulation of the sexual marketplace because monogamous societies have been found to be more stable, more productive, and have less crime than polygamous ones.

    https://www.economist.com/christmas-specials/2017/12/19/the-link-between-polygamy-and-war

    https://medium.economist.com/big-love-and-big-war-exploring-the-link-between-polygamy-and-violence-67306fb3c41b

    https://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2012/05/5338/

    http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2012/01/monogamous-societies-superior-to-polygamous-societies/#.XBAjVGhKh7g

    https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/pdf/10.1098/rstb.2011.0290

    If you have a society in which sex is not regulated it becomes a Darwinian sexual free for all in which 50-60% of men do not reproduce. Which is exactly what we had for the first 200,000 years of our before the advent of agriculture and enforced monogamy. These men that don’t mate and don’t have families then really have no incentive to participate in society, rebel against it, and become very violent.

    1. Hiding behind regulation is by definition an emasculated act.

      Life is Darwinian, life is characterised by war. These are simple facts. Get ready to take up arms brother!

      Troy.

      1. But if life is Darwinian, and life is war, then surely the men “fittest” to reproduce are those who can, by their own brawn, coherce women into submission. A truly Darwinian system would be sustained by rape. And that is hardly what you’re advocating for, Troy. You are rather pushing for a war and struggle with kiddie-gloves.

        1. Of course I don’t advocate for that. And I’m not pushing for a war, either (certainly not a literal one).

          People can do what the damn hell they like. All I’m saying is you don’t HAVE to take the conventional path (which clearly doesn’t work very well in most cases anyway.)

          The system is designed for chodes. There are ways to best the system and have a good life.

          Cheers,

          Troy.

      2. There is a reason that societies 10,000-15,000 years ago adopted monogamy as a societal norm: society as we know it would never have existed without it and it was the alpha men of society that made the decision to have a regulated marketplace with enforced monogamy.

        You say to “take up arms” but if we really did turn back into a sexual free for all kind of marketplace and the men that can’t compete naturally decided to check out, our society would collapse. No more running water, supermarkets, public sewer, department of public works. All of that gone. It’s the lower tier men that do that kind of work and if they have no incentive (i.e. family and a woman at home they can bang regularly) to participate in the system they won’t.

        1. Yeah, but obviously that’s never going to happen, so it’s not really worth worrying about.

          This is an example of taking an argument to its logical extreme to make a point. The point fails because the argument is specious.

          Here’s the thing – I don’t really give a damn about ‘society as we know it’, and what the vast majority of people decide to do. I understand the reasons why monogamy was introduced: my point is, it doesn’t work very well.

          Now, as individuals we have a choice of what to do about that. My message is that you don’t HAVE to follow the conventional path. I haven’t, and I know plenty of other guys who haven’t who are having a great time.

          But of course, it’s not like great swathes of the world’s population are going to read this website and stop being monogamous—not gonna happen.

          My message is for a very small group of freethinking guys who want something different to the norm.

          If you’d rather get shacked up and have kids then great – go for it. I’m certainly not stopping you.

          Cheers,
          Troy

          1. I think what Troy is positing is for each to ‘chose his own fate’ and more ‘de-regulation’. Perhaps I am wrong in my assessment.

            As for monogamy… it is a flawed concept and institution that goes against our biological hard-wiring. Can monogamy succeed? Sure – in certain cases, and as statistics bear out, less than 50% of the time in most societies / countries.

            … leading me into Darwinism. Life IS Darwinian – the strong (read- the most suitable) survive/thrive. Those who cannot adapt die off or fade out. Humans continually adapt – one need look no further than organized religion, who’s role is becoming less relevant most Western cultures. Whatever it ‘morphs’ into we will survive… we always have. The same with monogamy, or whatever type of pair-bonding humans find works best for them. We adapt and move forward.

          2. I do agree that Troy is advocating for us to choose our own fate and that as long as 95% of guys continue to buy into the soulmate/Disney marriage myth indefinitely and the other 5% of guys become players then everything will be fine. I just don’t know if that’s stable or not.

            I can’t believe that 95% of guys would remain that dumb for so long that they wouldn’t begin to reject that kind of thinking. And we know from study of studies of previous societies that without regulated monogamy society tends to turn into polygamy for the few (upper 30-40% of men) and then a lot of anger and resentment for the rest of guys who become increasingly violent.

            Monogamy pretty has been a cornerstone of society that allowed it to develop at all and if it disappears, will we devolve into the kind of violent societies that existed before it was implemented. I agree that life is Darwinian, but is a Darwinian approach to the sexual and dating marketplace the best for creating a stable, ordered society? If it is then why was monogamy ever introduced in the first place?

          3. I may not be able to clearly write my thoughts about this down, but here are some articles which discuss the ideas we are talking about:

            https://blacklabellogic.com/2017/08/24/gendernomics-reproductive-marxism/

            https://blacklabellogic.com/2018/11/30/gendernomics-regulations-and-the-smp/

          4. Ryan –

            On my own website I wrote an article back in July of this year addressing the topic of monogamy – and it’s origins and sustainability. Troy is generally more eloquent in his prose than I am, but we have similar view from ‘opposite sides of the pond’. As Troy relays in latest comment, it’s hard to change the minds of men (people) who have deeply entrenched beliefs. They also rely on ‘confirmation bias’ which leads them to sites that back up there already held stance/beliefs. In this day-in-age, you do not have to look very far on the internet to find ‘facts/data’ reinforcing your point of view. Whether they are reliable… well, that’s another story. I hold a BA in History, I like to do research, get BOTH sides of an argument/debate, weigh the FACTS, and then make a decision on my original thoughts. There are far too many ‘sheep’ in the Manosphere who cannot think for themselves. What’s worse, is when someone has an opposing view other than that of their Blog-Hero they get butt-hurt and defensive. I don’t agree with all Troy says and writes, but I enjoy his work as he is articulate and well-thought. He does not put out drivel and and nonsense to
            simply to raise the ire of his readers.
            CB

          5. CB,

            Oh, I really like Troy and have his books. The issue I have is that as long as only a small percentage of men pursue a player kind of lifestyle then everything will work out fine. I just don’t believe that will be that case.

            I think more and more men will begin to adopt this kind of lifestyle when they see the sexual success of these guys in addition to the institutions that have propped up monogamy for the last 10,000 years continuing to disintegrate. This will take a VERY long time to happen. What will the overall consequences be for society as the sexual marketplace continues to deregulate?

            What is your website? Is it black label logic?

          6. It will take a very long time to happen, and along the way I think we will see other shifts happening as well, in particular with AI, so it’s very hard to predicts where humanity end up. But AI could very well be a total game-changer.

            Troy.

          7. Ryan –

            Monogamy, in it’s current form, is a relatively ‘new’ concept when we are speaking in terms of man’s existence. I disagree with you 10,000 years, and believe it’s closer to 2000 or so – as we know it today.
            Whether more men choose the bachelor/playboy route – who knows. Whatever the case humans will adapt – we always have.
            I feel slightly ‘dirty’ promoting my site on Troy’s discussion forum – and my apologies to Mr. Francis. My site is:
            consummatebachelor.com

            This repartee’ has been civil and has had good points/counterpoints without losing decorum…well done gents.

            CB

          8. Many thanks CB, and agree that there are far too many sheep online who simply go along unthinkingly with whatever their favourite guru says. This is the root cause of many problems.

            Cheers,
            Troy

          9. I agree with much of this. But I would ask, why is it my responsibility (or yours, or anyone else reading this) to create a ‘stable, ordered society’?

            I didn’t ask to be born and I am only on this planet for a very short period of time. Therefore, why shouldn’t I take whatever I can get to make MY life as pleasurable as possible before I shuffle off this mortal coil?

            Handwringing about ‘society’ is one of the ways in which the gullible are kept in their place by those who couldn’t give a fuck about ‘society’, as long as they are having a damn good time.

            As Harry Browne writes in Freedom in an Unfree World:

            The gigantic myth called “society” that rules so many lives doesn’t even exist. “Society” is merely a collection
            of different people, tastes, and judgments. It can’t enforce its rules upon you. You don’t have to uphold causes
            you don’t believe in, go to cocktail parties that bore you, dress and act as you’ve been told to.

            Then –

            There isn’t any society to disapprove, to disallow, to denounce or to ostracize you. It’s a myth. I wonder how
            many millions of lives have been tossed on the junk pile to appease an entity that never existed.

            Cheers,
            Troy.

  3. I would advocate for regulation of the sexual marketplace because monogamous societies have been found to be more stable, more productive, and have less crime than polygamous ones.

    If you have a society in which sex is not regulated it becomes a Darwinian sexual free for all in which 50-60% of men do not reproduce. Which is exactly what we had for the first 200,000 years of our before the advent of agriculture and enforced monogamy. These men that don’t mate and don’t have families then really have no incentive to participate in society, rebel against it, and become very violent.

  4. Well articulated thoughts, that have thankfully now actually become rather mainstream, in what you have noticed is a highly polarized so-called “community”.

    Guys who want to point fingers of blame to feel better about being basically losers at life, vs guys who want to work and work and work until they can point a finger at themselves and it’s pointing at someone who is not a loser at life.

    I’m sure you’ve found that no matter how articulate and persuasive you are (and you are both), you can’t reason someone out of a view he didn’t reason himself into. People choose these political affiliations of memes for limbic purposes, and rationality is merely a tool used in service of the limbic system.

    The communists have an agenda, that they want to work, and they FEEL it’s their best option, if not to succeed, then at least to not feel so bad at being a literal loser on the very real and inevitable social ranking scale.

    I’m reading more of your posts. Great quality and interesting and thoughtful.

    1. I’m sure you’ve found that no matter how articulate and persuasive you are (and you are both), you can’t reason someone out of a view he didn’t reason himself into.

      Absolutely – 100% agree with this. I write this stuff not under the illusion that it will change the minds of people with deeply entrenched opinions, but more to demonstrate to those on the fence that there are other options.

      Thanks for reading and commenting.

      Troy.

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